I love my Mesmies, A Mesmar apreciation Thread.

[Kurow]

You know what this site needs? A "How mesmers are god's gift to Guild Wars" guide.

[Kook~NBK~]

Originally Posted by Kurow

You know what this site needs? A "How mesmers are god's gift to Guild Wars" guide.

I don't think anyone's claiming that Mesmers are "god's gift to GW." The point of this thread is about enlightening people on the qualities and usefulness of the mesmer class.

Last night a couple of guildies and I hooked up with some other folks for a Forgemaster run in FoW. 2 Mesmers, 2 Eles, 2 monks, 1 Warrior, & 1 Necro. - We tore through everything down there. It was a full team effort where each one of us took care of specific things - One Mesmer geared up to deal with casters, the other melee types. The Tank did the book trick and the Ele's had fun with MS, the Monks did their healing/prot. things and the Necro kept everyone in the energy and hit 'em with SS. - Fun times, fun tmes indeed!

[Brutaniu Mason]

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

You don't need a book to use the book trick. Take off your weapon and shield. Its the same affect. You can do that anywhere.

The AI sees you as the weakest target and attacks you.

Before I go into my love for mesmers, I'd just like to say this is wrong--lol.

Someone said ranger interrupts do more damage than mesmer. [email protected]
Mesmers are extremely FUN and useful. They put bosses to shame. They put regular monsters to uber shame.
Using a mesmer is far different from any other class in this game, and that is probably why I like them the best. Totally different style of playing.
Someone said mesmer chicks are the hottest. I will have to say "Nay" to you friend :P. Too classy for my type. The hair styles, outfits, and if you use a mask on your female..ew. *coughmymesmerismaleandapimpcough*
I won't say mesmers are the best class. I find gw quite balanced; every profession plays their role. I will say they are better at destroying casters, effective anywhere, and do it all in a more tactical method (generally).

[Theos]

Originally Posted by Brutaniu Mason

Before I go into my love for mesmers, I'd just like to say this is wrong--lol.

Someone said ranger interrupts do more damage than mesmer. [email protected]
Mesmers are extremely FUN and useful. They put bosses to shame. They put regular monsters to uber shame.

Ranger interupts do deal more damage than a mesmer's interupts, atleast my mesmer does not have two skills that recharge in 8 seconds, deal +20 damage, and interupt, does yours? Power Spike deals omg! 106 damage, Punishing Shot and Savage Shot each deal 50+ and recharge in half the time. I'd dare say a ranger deals more damage, but Mesmers aren't made for that so its understandable...

Alot of the Mesmer I see in PvE, usually when I am on my mesmer, still have this habit of throwing Backfire on bosses as if it were the almighty big stick of TR. Ya... I cry when I see that.

Originally Posted by Brutaniu Mason

Using a mesmer is far different from any other class in this game, and that is probably why I like them the best. Totally different style of playing.
Someone said mesmer chicks are the hottest. I will have to say "Nay" to you friend :P. Too classy for my type. The hair styles, outfits, and if you use a mask on your female..ew. *coughmymesmerismaleandapimpcough*
I won't say mesmers are the best class. I find gw quite balanced; every profession plays their role. I will say they are better at destroying casters, effective anywhere, and do it all in a more tactical method (generally).

I agree with you here

[Brutaniu Mason]

^^Most rangers using interrupts stick to barrage rather than punishing. Savage shot will only do the bonus damage on spells. Distracting deals hardly any damage. Concussion is nothing extra, but I'd say it's their best interrupt *heart*.

I just hate it when an interrupt ranger is in the group with my mesmer. They often don't interrupt more than me, and essentially waste my damage potential with power spike and cry of frustration (you forget about that one)? Large aoe interrupt and damage.

Third reason I hate interrupt rangers in a group with my mesmer, and feel mesmers are better "damage interrupters" is backfire. Savage shot can deal a lot more than power spike over time--sure. But a lot of the spells you don't want to interrupt, because backfire will completely destroy the enemy caster. 147-154 damage per spammed spell by the enemy. Then finish it off with a CoF or Power Spike.

Rangers, get off my mesmer's target

[Theos]

Originally Posted by Brutaniu Mason

^^Most rangers using interrupts stick to barrage rather than punishing. Savage shot will only do the bonus damage on spells. Distracting deals hardly any damage. Concussion is nothing extra, but I'd say it's their best interrupt *heart*.

I still believe barrage to be a worthless elite, but let them do as they will. What I showed you was that Rangers have the ability to easily outdamage a mesmer while interupting.

Originally Posted by Brutaniu Mason

I just hate it when an interrupt ranger is in the group with my mesmer. They often don't interrupt more than me, and essentially waste my damage potential with power spike and cry of frustration (you forget about that one)? Large aoe interrupt and damage.

I didn't forget Cry, its just not enough to tip favor toward mesmers Cry is 20 seconds recharge, Spike is 15, 25 energy to use both. Punishing is 8 recharge and Savage is 5, the damage from Cry is easily surmounted by Savage's spamming ability as well as its high damage bonus. Ofcourse you can avoid Ranger attacks so the whole thing becomes very messy.
When you have a ranger in your group call a target, say cntrl + shift + space, and he can get the other available target.

Originally Posted by Brutaniu Mason

Third reason I hate interrupt rangers in a group with my mesmer, and feel mesmers are better "damage interrupters" is backfire. Savage shot can deal a lot more than power spike over time--sure. But a lot of the spells you don't want to interrupt, because backfire will completely destroy the enemy caster. 147-154 damage per spammed spell by the enemy. Then finish it off with a CoF or Power Spike.

Rangers, get off my mesmer's target

Backfire is a crappy skill, comparing it to Savage is not much of a comparison. Savage is less conditional than backfire, for one the spell HAS to be cast, two backfire is a hex, and three backfire is just damage, savage is an interupt and damage. Applied to a self healing monk Savage will out perform backfire... then again the only place backfire sees use is in PvE... stupid AI makes bad skills good :P

[Brutaniu Mason]

Originally Posted by Theos

Backfire is a crappy skill

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

[Mandy Memory]

Originally Posted by Brutaniu Mason

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

Why not...backfire is not the shining mesmer skill (must to the disbelief of everyone who has played a mesmer for under 300 hours...)

Originally Posted by Evilsod

Mandy i seriously think you need to play Mesmer more, in general, PvP and high level areas. Just because none of there skills have fancy animation like SS or Meteor Shower doesn't mean they aren't killing things.

I just did Thunderkeep again for the hell of it on my mesmer and i'm pretty certain the entire team blamed the ele for that huge chunk of health that kept dissapearing from Jades/Mursaat the moment they attacked (Ineptitude+Clumsiness).

I hardly see saying Mesmers don't have a res a reason they suck. No profession but Monk (and soon Rit) have a res.

In FoW you see mesmers work more than you think. Did you ever wonder why that Shadow Monk decided to stop casting? Or Why that other Shadow keeps losing lots of health after each spell?
Probably not, you probably put it down to the ele and necro, or perhaps it was your own fearsome visage causing it to stop casting in terror

Power Block and Backfire > Monks (PvE)

Lol you think Ele does damage...and that makes baby jesus laugh at you like a little school girl. Compairing anything to an ele is like compairing it to a warrior without skills and armor from henge. Of course he may do a little damage and he has some armor...but he is still pathetic. (Also...meteor shower has the same chance of killing something as like...a helpless little bunny who has no legs.)

And for everyone who says that I need to play mesmer more...Ive played a mesmer in pvp and pve for over 500 hours total.

[Phaern Majes]

I'd have to say that most people just don't realize how subtle a mesmer's work is. They do seem to think that the mesmers just stand there and watch. Really though from now on just call every skill you use as a mesmer. This will make people wake up and see that you are useful. I'll take a mesmer over a necro any day. Not always about how fast you can go. I just like to enjoy the game and play, as to which mesmers never complain about the groups they are in. I've found some nice ragequitting necros though, and that I've found makes the game unenjoyable.

[felinette]

I was out with a mesmer this weekend who worked really hard and made a tremendous contribution to the group's success. Because I was playing my ranger, I was behind her most of the time during battle, so I could see what she was doing (I also play a mesmer so I recognized the moves).

OTOH, I took pity on a mesmer for one mission who was running around spamming "Mesmer LFG, please invite me!" After seeing her do this for about ten minutes (I was having a snack while watching), I whispered her that I usually take henchies and she was welcome to come along with me. She accepted, so out we go with four henchies. I'm already laughing as I type this. She aggroed everything in sight. Honestly, she'd see a group, run into the middle of it, get pounded, and die. Thank god I'm Mo secondary and carry rebirth. It was really, really, funny, and I would have finished the mission much quicker and with less grief if I'd just taken all henchies. Great entertainment, though.

Anyway, once we'd finished (yes, we succeeded), she said we had a hard time because we need real ppl in the group. Um, no, I've henched that particular mission a lot, and it's actually one of the easier ones. We could have just done without a tanking mesmer who aggroed every group she came across, that's all. lol.